[Mac-access]: App Development Question

Discussion:

Josh

2015-04-24 01:45:33 UTC

Hello,

Does anyone know where I would begin if I wanted to develop an app where
people could post questions anonymously and it be accessed on ios as well as
os? I am considering developing an app to be used at my institution. This
would be the first app that I have ever developed. Thank you for any help
offered on this matter.

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Travis Siegel

2015-04-24 17:15:21 UTC

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As far as developing apps goes, Apple's Xtools just aren't there. It's gotten better as versions of Xcode has gone up, but last time I checked, (and that was a few releases back) it still wasn't possible to build an app from scratch using apple's tools if you wanted to have a gui with the app. Now, with that said, I have written apps for osx, and even modified existing apps to make them work better, the only issue was, I needed sighted assistance for parts of the process. Others have successfully used tools like renasance and produced quite usable programs. Java also works well (or used to, I've not written anything in java for a couple years, so this may have changed). Of course, if you write your application in php/html/javascript, and host it on a web server, then it will work for osx and ios with no trouble, assuming you build it properly. Of course, the downside of that is you can't use the app in offline mode, but it doesn't sound like you want offline access anyh
ow, so that may work for you.
I know there are others who develop on osx and ios, and perhaps they have more recent experiences they can relate, but I kind of let my osx/ios development slide after getting so frustrated with the not quite accessible tools, and the lack of a machine that could run the latest osx release, so perhaps I'm not the best person to be answering this query, since I've mainly stuck to linux/terminal apps for the last little while.
Hopefully, someone else will pipe up with better information for you. If I ever get a new enough machine to use osx 10.9, I will likely renew my apple developer access, and begin looking into all this stuff again, but that isn't likely to happen in the near future.
Hope this helps anyway.

Post by Josh
Hello,
Does anyone know where I would begin if I wanted to develop an app where
people could post questions anonymously and it be accessed on ios as well as
os? I am considering developing an app to be used at my institution. This
would be the first app that I have ever developed. Thank you for any help
offered on this matter.
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Jude DaShiell

2015-04-24 17:30:04 UTC

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The only fix Apple need make in the xcode package I wrote them about
earlier and it would be helpful if it were a general fix to their
operating systems going forward is that there is no keyboard shortcut for
drag and drop. One would be able to move objects into the selected area
so they'd be included in an app that was being developed so far as I know
the rest of it works. For those that aren't afraid of the command line
though interfacebuilder in xcode may be the way to go since that's command
line operated unless someone has found flaws in that platform as well.

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Post by Travis Siegel
As far as developing apps goes, Apple's Xtools just aren't there. It's gotten better as versions of Xcode has gone up, but last time I checked, (and that was a few releases back) it still wasn't possible to build an app from scratch using apple's tools if you wanted to have a gui with the app. Now, with that said, I have written apps for osx, and even modified existing apps to make them work better, the only issue was, I needed sighted assistance for parts of the process. Others have successfully used tools like renasance and produced quite usable programs. Java also works well (or used to, I've not written anything in java for a couple years, so this may have changed). Of course, if you write your application in php/html/javascript, and host it on a web server, then it will work for osx and ios with no trouble, assuming you build it properly. Of course, the downside of that is you can't use the app in offline mode, but it doesn't sound like you want offline access an

Post by Travis Siegel
ow, so that may work for you.
I know there are others who develop on osx and ios, and perhaps they have more recent experiences they can relate, but I kind of let my osx/ios development slide after getting so frustrated with the not quite accessible tools, and the lack of a machine that could run the latest osx release, so perhaps I'm not the best person to be answering this query, since I've mainly stuck to linux/terminal apps for the last little while.
Hopefully, someone else will pipe up with better information for you. If I ever get a new enough machine to use osx 10.9, I will likely renew my apple developer access, and begin looking into all this stuff again, but that isn't likely to happen in the near future.
Hope this helps anyway.

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Travis Siegel

2015-04-24 17:43:32 UTC

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Interface builder is commandline driven? When did this happen?
Last time I used (or tried to) interface builder, you had to select the items you wanted from one side of the screen, and drop them in the other side to quote build unquote your interface. It's nice in that it builds all the required code to link pieces of your interface to pieces of your code, then all you need to do is fill in the appropriate pieces of code, but if interface builder got a command line interface, it happened after I quite bothering with apple development. Are you sure we're talking about the same program?
If this is true, then I *really* need to get me an updated mac so I can play.

The only fix Apple need make in the xcode package I wrote them about earlier and it would be helpful if it were a general fix to their operating systems going forward is that there is no keyboard shortcut for drag and drop. One would be able to move objects into the selected area so they'd be included in an app that was being developed so far as I know the rest of it works. For those that aren't afraid of the command line though interfacebuilder in xcode may be the way to go since that's command line operated unless someone has found flaws in that platform as well.

Sarah k Alawami

2015-04-24 18:04:48 UTC

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On apple vis is a guide on app development. Unfortunately the guide stopped as the key element was bot accessible. Feel free to look for it though and ask any question on there.